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Shrill - Series Premiere Discussion

Shrill

Premise: Aspiring journalist Annie (Aidy Bryant) juggles her boyfriend (Luka Jones), her mom (Julia Sweeney) and her boss (John Cameron Mitchell) in this comedy based on Lindy West's memoir.

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level 1

You butthurt fucks are the reason I use drugs.

level 1

racist ass show. got all that from the commercials

level 1

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level 1
3 points · 2 months ago

Who is the actor who played The Awesome? He looks so familiar!

level 2

Beck Bennett, also from SNL.

level 1

In Episode 4, Annie gets mad at Ryan because he said he was fucking her and another girl. Annie mentioned earlier on in the episode that the party was going to be their second date, and they legitimately have never had a conversation about being exclusive at this point. I understand it sucks to hear that someone you really like is fucking someone else, but at this point, he's not her boyfriend, and he's allowed to be with whoever he wants, so why is she mad at him? I understand the show has pointed out 50 other flaws in him, but for this to be the last straw is just weird to me, when other things he has done are definitely worth not pursuing a relationship with someone (not feeling comfortable enough to tell him she got an abortion, for example). Him fucking someone else when they aren't even in a relationship isn't that big of a deal compared to the other shit he's done

level 2

I think she’s mostly angry because he missed her work event and on top of it he missed it to be with someone else he’s sleeping with.

level 2
14 points · 2 months ago

Might have had something to do with Annie's insecurities. The other girl Ryan was fucking is petite and skinny, and probably younger. And I'm willing to bet Ryan didn't make that other girl sneak out the back door to avoid his brother and friend seeing her like he did to Annie.

level 1
-8 points · 2 months ago(0 children)
level 1

this is an amazing show! i've been relatively skinny all my life so it was really interesting seeing this perspective. i would love to watch more like this!

level 2
10 points · 1 month ago

i really don't think you need to be fat to relate to the main character. these are human issues.

level 3

yes, of course. i can empathize with what the character is going through even though i never went through it.


what i mean by perspective is, when you're living your life with certain characteristics being relatively fixed, like sex, race, body type, etc., it can be eye opening to learn about things that you've never/rarely experienced, but other people experience regularly.

level 4

i mean, if youve lived in this world and have consumed mainstream media for the last 20 years, i'd think you'd be familiar enough with the idea that fat people are discriminated against?

i dont think the show pushes many boundaries in terms of big girl tropes, so i was pretty surprised by your comment.

level 5

Yes, the idea that fat people are discriminated against is not new to me. The many subtle and disheartening forms that it happens is what is not always known to everyone (myself included).

Maybe I just haven’t seen a lot of stuff like this show (would love to see more like this), but I felt like the way this show represented a person’s (especially women’s) body was something I haven’t seen before in this medium. I’m thinking of the pool party episode for example.

level 1

How is Annie not terrified of getting fired?

level 2

Because she has a fat ass and big titties and she tells men what to do.

Or we could be witnessing her during a stage in her life where she gets more ballsy about speaking honestly.

level 1

Ok, can we talk about Annie's boss Gabe got a moment. I get that he's supposed to be this sassy gay guy, but he just comes across as mean, pretentious, and self indulgent. The way he talks to Annie and even all his employees is fucking ridiculous and no one in real life would stand for that shit. As my fianceé pointed out, he's like a poor man's Andy Dick. I don't think I'm alone here, right?

level 2

I understand where you are coming from but I disagree. First, I think Gabe (and assistant Ruthie) had most of the show's true laugh out loud moments.

While he's clearly gay, I don't think he was supposed to be, nor did he come off as, the "sassy gay" archetype. He definitely was supposed to be mean, pretentious, and self indulgent, and he sure did.

The way he talks to his employees...unfortunately, I don't see that as unrealistic. In fact, while his treatment of Annie was horrendous at times, she legit went over the magazine owner's head and published an article he had nixed. You're going to get in trouble for that.

Poor man's Andy Dick..I don't think he was going for that vibe myself.

level 3

He is married to a man, so he's definitely gay.

level 2

He's supposed to be a dick. He's played by John Cameron Mitchell, who is most famous for Hedwig and the Angry Inch. I do agree that IRL I cannot imagine people working for the character. I think they could have toned him down a bit to be more realistic.

level 3

I definitely know people like him

level 3
14 points · 2 months ago · edited 2 months ago

It's really funny to hear people say that he isn't realistic. This show is based on Lindy West's life when she was working for The Stranger, a Seattle newspaper. Her boss at that time was Dan Savage (of Savage Love, It Gets Better, ITMFA, and frothy mix fame) and the character in the show is very clearly based on him. Exaggerated to be just a bit meaner and more pretentious, sure, but just a tiny bit exaggerated. And I bet Mr. Savage thinks it's hilarious.

level 4

Lol. Was it Dan Savage? Ok. I can definitely see it more now. And as much as I like Dan Savage, he’s really been an ass to fat people in the past. I never saw him as being that pretentious, though. I didn’t know Dan Savage was an editor, though. I just thought he only writes his column, as well as his books, etc...

level 5

He was editor in chief of The Stranger - the alt weekly in Seattle. The interwebs tell me now he's got the title editorial director.

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